http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84 Chiropractors Discussing the Business of Chiropractic en-US Sat, 25 May 2013 17:32:28 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0 q http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/search.php http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-612 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:00:35 +0000 dorian swystun 612@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>Just had an experience with a kid that really refocussed me on what we really do in all of our offices every day. 4 year old girl born with a detached esophagus and major developmental challenges. Multiple surgeries to attach esophagus. Eats poorly, never walked or crawled, speaks 10 words, signs 30 words, can't straighten her legs, hearing problems, 1 bowel movement a week, and weighs 20 ponds. Yes, 4 years old and weighs 20 lbs. ! Been across western Canada to numerous specialists for leg braces, abdominal surgeries etc etc etc... On exam the lightest palpation to atlas caused her to slap her head and scream uncontrollably. Mother thought I could help her muscles in feet and legs so at least she could straighten legs. Had to tell her the problem wasn't her legs but the top bone in her neck slipped and has disconnected her brain from her entire body. Then it was 'can you help?' </p> <p>This family lives 5 hours away from my town and I had to say yes but..... We talked and figured out a plan that could work. The mom's sister lived in my town and she could come here for a week at a time and we could see the child everyday. Adjusted atlas first day, she stopped slapping her head, looked at me and was touching her chin and moving her hand toward me. Mom started to cry, I crapped my pants and thought something was wrong. The mom said "she is signing 'thank-you.' ".</p> <p>They came in for a week of adjustments and I saw them recently after 2 weeks at home following the week of treatment. Only atlas adjustments for one week. Mom brought her in holding both of the kids arms as she walked down the hall to the adjustment room. Now weighs 22 pounds, straightens her legs, eats an entire sandwich herself, had 2 days of dark fluid (wax) running out of her ear, bowel movements everyday, gained 1 cm of circumference on both calf muscles, asks to do walking exercises, and speaking more words. </p> <p>A side note. They came in because sister a patient at clinic and saw the giant tree painted on wall in waiting room with all the kids pictures whom I treat pasted all over it. Raises a lot of questions about kids with staff mainly. Get many new patients from the tree mural in the waiting room. </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-606 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:40:58 +0000 DrRon 606@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>My latest baby story is very similar to everyone else's (colic gone in 2 adjusments), with the exception of the kids mom. Baby Charlies mom just happens to have an MSc in Biochemistry from Harvard and works as a drug researcher for big pharma. When I asked if the baby was given any meds, the answer was an emphatic NO WAY!!!! She said she would only ever give meds to her boy as a last resort!!</p> <p>Sweet!!! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-604 Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:27:14 +0000 DrPerron 604@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>As if you would have STOPPED reading if that were the title. :) </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-603 Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:09:01 +0000 swaimer 603@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>At first glance I thought it said, "Why I love adjusting babes," I'm glad i kept reading! Seriously an excellent discussion Dr. D., and thank you all for your posts. Same thing this week, 3 months old, Crying a lot, not pooping, parents not sleeping. 3 adjustments and she poops and the folks are sleeping. We also had a 12 year old boy, weighs 255, is slightly autistic, drools, cracks his neck all the time and is "driving us all crazy." (at first I thought he must be Irish!) Like Wade said, no promises from me, but a whole lot of confidence that I could help him. The curiosity is so high. When he left, I told Liz at the front desk, "there goes the reason we exist." She got it.<br /> Cheers all<br /> ks </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-600 Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:55:21 +0000 Ed 600@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>I must say it is very exhilarating reading these posts! Really helps get that why on! I always feel it is the biggest compliment we can ever get when someone brings their baby in! The trust and faith to do that must be huge! Anyway I had a lovely case a couple of weeks ago, just happened to be a chiropractors child! The baby was only a few weeks old and had developed a chronic chest infection, lots of mucous and loads of vomiting and needless to say no sleep! The mother had adjusted the baby and tried everything and had done everything right but was coming under a lot of pressure from the rest of the family to take the baby to the MD and get the medication! What a tough situation to be in, all everyone wanted was what they thought was best for the child! Anyway as a compromise and out of desperation they saw me!! As we have discussed before in a previous post sometimes rather than pounding away at the same segment it just needs an alternative approach! And that is all I did C1 on the PD side, C2 and inf C0 OPD and the reflux adjustment! 3 adjustments later all clear and totally asymptomatic! Chiropractic really is amazing and to see those little eyes light up is the most wondrous experience we can ever have!</p> <p>With kids I am always reminded of James Chestnut talking about his children when parents remarked as to how healthy and intelligent they were and he felt like retorting no they are just normal; it is your children that are backwards from the lack of proper care they have received! Well my wife had the exact same experience at a recent coffee morning all the mothers were remarking how happy and content our new baby is and how "intelligent" our eldest daughter is! Being the good diplomat that she is she refrained from castigating them for their neglect, but did highlight the power of chiropractic and breast feeding! Having mentioned empirical evidence earlier out of all of us on the Forum that have kids you can pretty much be assured that only a tiny percentage if any have needed medication of any shape or form! I just think that that is truly amazing and something we should be screaming from the roof tops! It is certainly a great topic for our "talking points"; not to impress people but to impress on them the significance as to what we do! </p> <p>I read a very sobering article the other day that stated that our kids were actually going to be dying at a far younger age than us!! That is tragic and yet it is so avoidable if only we would get out of the way and let these patients in! If that does not get us moving and motivated I would suggest we are in the wrong profession!! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-599 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:01:05 +0000 Dr. Julie 599@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>I am with you Dr. Davis makes me wish I could get an adjustment that good. Thanks all for sharing. It is such an honor to me to get to take care of children. What a privilege! and without drugs! Please don't get me started on the whole chiropractors trying to prescribe thing. MDs don't do it right and chiropractors are going to be any better? Dr. Perron you are right, osteopaths confuse the public. </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-597 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:05:47 +0000 DrAnthonyDavis 597@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>Two of my favorite experiences in chiropractic involve adjusting infants. The first was a 1 month old who would eat for 5 minutes, then sleep for a half-hour and repeat. The mother (who is a friend of my wife and I's) was getting so sleep-deprived that she was literally going nuts. One adjustment to the atlas and I watched the relief on the baby's face and watched her nuzzle into her mother's shoulder. Pretty cool way to head into my lunch hour! As I was getting ready for my afternoon, I looked out the window and saw that the car was still there. Went out to check and the little girl had been nursing for 45 minutes striaght! Promptly zonked out for a few hours, too. </p> <p>The second was recently when my exam tech brought in her one-week old to get checked. I adjusted the atlas through my thumb and could feel the energy shift in her body and the tension evaporate. </p> <p>Made me wish I could get an adjustment that good! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-596 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:51:39 +0000 fsovinsky 596@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>OK! You guys are making me miss practice right now! How extraordinary it is to have the privilege to be witness, to the innate/inborn/newborn healing powers of a human being! </p> <p>You got to move that Atlas, shift that suture, caress that coccyx and do whatever it takes to Bring It! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-595 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:39:34 +0000 wanunson 595@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>Love it, love it, LOVE it!! Fun sharing kids stories b/c they're so fun to adjust. I'm just cracking up half the time I'm with them. Recently I had a Down's Syndrome child who's not been walking yet, but she's 20 months old. I've seen her on separate occasions since birth, and up to these last three months, her mother has been ecstatic with the fact that her PT and multiple Pediatricians have propheticly placed her in the "this is as good as she'll get" category throughout her continuing developmental stages, yet she's been right up along with Non down's her age. ??? At two months, "she needs to be in leg braces b/c her body is hypermobile". At 6 months, "she needs PT to hold her head up". "Oh, don't expect her to develop much in the first 18 months." Fortunately her mother is independent and stubborn, unwilling to just accept the categorically fateful medical imposition placed on her daughter. Simply put, I look at a child and ask myself, what is possible if this child is actually given a chance? No promises, just curiosity. Adjusting her when she was slow to first hold her head up, then crawling, then ear infections, and most recently standing but no walking all demonstrated change within either the next day or within a week. Two adjustments in 3 days and one the following week and this little body is walking around. BP Sacrum, T2 and Atlas. Click, Click, Click. Who knows, solving a problem could be just a click away. Yes, what we get to do and the potential to impact our community's well being is pretty damn sweet! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-594 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:03:54 +0000 DrPerron 594@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>Sadly, I believe that the chiros that want to be more like MD's, do so out of desparation. If they were any good at being a chiro it would be obvious that we have enough to do in our own niche. Classic jack of all trades, master of none. ie. Osteopaths; great concept but confused public. If you want drugs then wouldn't an MD be the best because that is all they do and if you want manipulation wouldn't a chiro be the best because that is all they do. Living out of fear as opposed to tapping into the greatness that is at our fingertips. Too bad but that is why we are all here to tip the pendulum as much as possible in the other direction. </p> <p>For anyone that is not to "into" kids adjusting I would like to contribute another recent example in my office. I do not go to births or homes as does Dr. D, but I think it is awesome that she does. I do see a decent number of kids with a recent big impact, little effort experience. A mom brought in her 14 month old after visiting the pediatrician. The child was not walking and did not seem to like standing much either even with holding on to stuff. On the surface, so what! The kid is healthy in everyother way and my daughter waited till 14 months to walk also. (Reason is she crawled like the wind and blew past most kids walking.) Nonetheless, obviously worth a look to see if there was anything in my arena that may be inhibiting the process. Sure enough, the psoas muscles were locked up, the abs at the ribcage insertion were locked up and the clavicles were being yanked up by her scalenes. This is the fifth child in this family and so she has participated in the typical taxi service that ensues with lots of kids and things to do, so mom admitted that this child's "tummytime" had not been as abundant as the others. Long story short, released all those muscles and mom reported next day that her daughter was instantly standing way more and for longer periods of time. Released a few spots again and returned in a week with the little girl walking. The MD had written a prescription for physical therapy and concerned the parents. Would PT have worked? Probably, because it was all soft tissue issues but can you imagine a 14 month old kid having to go through PT sessions versus about 10 clicks total and about 5 minutes total of treatment.</p> <p>Fun stuff! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-593 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:42:05 +0000 Ed 593@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>What can you say to that apart from congratulations! That is fantastic! What is amazing is that apparently in the UK the regulatory body and the largest chiropractic association categorically dismiss the idea that chiropractic can benefit anything other than low back pain! The vertebral subluxation complex is now only taught/mentioned as an historical event!!! What is worse is that they are also looking to get prescription rites!! Yet everyday we are all privvy to overwhelming empirical evidence of amazing results such as your experience! Wow! </p> http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/topic.php?id=84#post-592 Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:03:43 +0000 Anonymous 592@http://www.dcmentors.com/forum/ <p>Hi All. I had a really great experience today and I just had to share. :)<br /> I got a call from one of my mommies who had delivered her baby the night before. She delivered in the hospital and they used forceps to deliver her baby boy. :( She had been having great difficulty getting him to nurse and when she did get him to the breast he would fall asleep after only nursing for 2-3 minutes. The hospital staff were panicking and threatening to feed him formula which the mom did not want to do unless it was a last resort. So I went to the hospital to check them both out. (First... I have to say that he is the cutest thing ever) I checked his cranials and upper cervical area and adjusted his atlas, right jaw and sphenoid bone. Within seconds he woke up, we got him up to the breast and nursed for 25 minutes straight! It was awesome. I gave them a call after I was done adjusting at the end of the day and he had woke up a few hours later and nursed for another 1/2 hour and was doing great. </p> <p>Darn I love my job! </p>